Hi There
Has anyone on this forum migrated from Docent 6.5 to 7.X?
We are currently reviewing the work required and I would like to obtain some feedback with regards to issues encountered.
We currently have a Docent 6.5 SP3 environment using most types of eLearning content (AICC/SCORM, Outliner, NetG and WebEX)
This information will greatly assist us in ensuring we identify the demanding areas
Thanks
6.5 to 7.X Data and Content
Hi Sandeep:
We are in the process of considering a migration to 7.x, however we are feature-limited at this point. That is, we are dependent upon features that exist in 6.5 that haven't been implemented in the 7.x line yet. The most significant of which is eCommerce functionality. So, we aren't seriously considering a migration until 7.5 at the soonest.
That having been said, we have done some preliminary investigation regarding the effort involved in performing the non-eCommerce part of the migration. There are some issues with regard to how STS has chosen to approach the concept of migration that complicate matters. My understanding is that the tools for migration have improved somewhat from 7.1 to 7.2, so if you haven't seen the newest tools, that's certainly going to be important to investigate. Even with the new tools, I believe that each of the learning content types you mention have their individual considerations that could require special handling.
Have you brought in your STS representative for a preliminary assessement yet? Are you focusing on a "do-it-yourself" approach, or are you considering using STS professional services? Have you gone through the existing migration documentation and materials?
I think that there are at least three demanding areas of impact, each of which can be broken down further:
That's all I really have time for tonight, but I think this is worthy of a lot of additional discussion.
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Joe Kyle
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6.5 to 7.X Data and Content
Thanks Joe. We have engaged professional services with our migration, and thanks for the TIP regarding looking at the migration tools
6.5 to 7.X Data and Content
I note that while professional services can be very helpful in the migration process, there are still plenty of opportunities in the migration where your organization-specific requirements may not match what they've previously done, nor match with their expectations as to what is to be accomplished.
A good example is the set of migration tools associated with 7.1 --- there were a number of limitations there that were changed in the 7.2 tools based on feedback from new and different user requirements. By no means has every potential issue been resolved, there are still plenty of factors that must be considered in the details of AICC/SCORM and Outliner content migration, for example.
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Joe Kyle
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6.5 to 7.X Data and Content
We completed our upgrade from Docent 6.5 to SumTotal 7.1 a few months back and I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you had with regard to data migration.
We are considering migrating
We are considering migrating from 6.5 to 7x or 8. For us one of the crucial items is to be able to discriminate among our users for purposes of sending out learning automatically. We use Group Learning Plans extensively in 6.5. Currently we have our organizational hierarchy mirrored in a 5-level domain hierarchy, totalling about 1700 domains (representing our departmental units and sub-units), with all the learners at the very bottom layer. Managers are in all levels.
Then we added about a half-dozen attributes (clinician/non-clinician, researcher/non-researcher, etc. to the user entity. Users can also have multiple job classifications out of about 3000 total classifications.
We send out learning based on a combination of building location, unit (domain), manager, all the custom attributes, job classification and have also added single-user include and exclude because sometimes that is the only way to get the right audience.
It would be nice to be able to add "new hire" and be able to add attributes easily without a special customization. Perhaps the "Organizations" entity of SumTotal would work for that? How flexible is that?
I understand domains and audiences work somewhat differently in the new LMS, and there are probably many ways we could map our current data to the new structures available. Has anyone out there needed to create a complex hierarchy like ours to send out learning? Or have recommendations along those lines? Have you run into anything that you can't do that you really needed to do?
Thanks!
Ellen